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jkelly
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:18 pm Reply with quote
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skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
heavymetalchuck wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently



So No royalties to Joe lopes family?



I would think its between Vision and Joe Lopes family to discuss those details....


i would think customers would want to know if a pro is not getting any $ when a company is using their name...


I agree.... but reading your response you automatically assumed his family was getting no money.

"So No royalties to Joe lopes family?"

Maybe if you asked "does the Lopes family make any royalties off of these boards?" It might have come across differently.

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skate-addict
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:29 pm Reply with quote
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jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
heavymetalchuck wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently



So No royalties to Joe lopes family?



I would think its between Vision and Joe Lopes family to discuss those details....


i would think customers would want to know if a pro is not getting any $ when a company is using their name...


I agree.... but reading your response you automatically assumed his family was getting no money.

"So No royalties to Joe lopes family?"

Maybe if you asked "does the Lopes family make any royalties off of these boards?" It might have come across differently.


Posted by member Mott in 2013 jchan wrote:
Sorry I haven't read through the thread but does anyone know if Professor Schmitt is part of these or who is making them? Somehow they just seem too lame, too poor quality and too non-supportive of past riders and artists for him to have anything to do with them.


Paul has no involvement. Solely produced by Dorfman

punkkin wrote:
Hold up, is this true? Damn.


I spoke with Bryce this past weekend and he confirmed that the Lopes family isn't getting a penny.
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jkelly
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:34 pm Reply with quote
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skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
heavymetalchuck wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently



So No royalties to Joe lopes family?



I would think its between Vision and Joe Lopes family to discuss those details....


i would think customers would want to know if a pro is not getting any $ when a company is using their name...


I agree.... but reading your response you automatically assumed his family was getting no money.

"So No royalties to Joe lopes family?"

Maybe if you asked "does the Lopes family make any royalties off of these boards?" It might have come across differently.


Posted by member Mott in 2013 jchan wrote:
Sorry I haven't read through the thread but does anyone know if Professor Schmitt is part of these or who is making them? Somehow they just seem too lame, too poor quality and too non-supportive of past riders and artists for him to have anything to do with them.


Paul has no involvement. Solely produced by Dorfman

punkkin wrote:
Hold up, is this true? Damn.


I spoke with Bryce this past weekend and he confirmed that the Lopes family isn't getting a penny.


So there is your answer.....You either knew that when you originally posted or you searched it out afterwards. Either way it didn't change how you posted. You came in on the attack right out of the gate instead of asking...That was my point

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skate-addict
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:40 pm Reply with quote
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jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
heavymetalchuck wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently



So No royalties to Joe lopes family?



I would think its between Vision and Joe Lopes family to discuss those details....


i would think customers would want to know if a pro is not getting any $ when a company is using their name...


I agree.... but reading your response you automatically assumed his family was getting no money.

"So No royalties to Joe lopes family?"

Maybe if you asked "does the Lopes family make any royalties off of these boards?" It might have come across differently.


Posted by member Mott in 2013 jchan wrote:
Sorry I haven't read through the thread but does anyone know if Professor Schmitt is part of these or who is making them? Somehow they just seem too lame, too poor quality and too non-supportive of past riders and artists for him to have anything to do with them.


Paul has no involvement. Solely produced by Dorfman

punkkin wrote:
Hold up, is this true? Damn.


I spoke with Bryce this past weekend and he confirmed that the Lopes family isn't getting a penny.


So there is your answer.....You either knew that when you originally posted or you searched it out afterwards. Either way it didn't change how you posted. You came in on the attack right out of the gate instead of asking...That was my point


skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently


this is how i asked at first.
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jkelly
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:17 pm Reply with quote
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Ok I did read that I just sort of clicked in on that last part. I apologize. I guess I was just used to seeing the usual jump the gun bitching. Lol and I guess I sort of did the same.

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heavymetalchuck
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:20 am Reply with quote
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skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
jkelly wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
heavymetalchuck wrote:
skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently



So No royalties to Joe lopes family?



I would think its between Vision and Joe Lopes family to discuss those details....


i would think customers would want to know if a pro is not getting any $ when a company is using their name...


I agree.... but reading your response you automatically assumed his family was getting no money.

"So No royalties to Joe lopes family?"

Maybe if you asked "does the Lopes family make any royalties off of these boards?" It might have come across differently.


Posted by member Mott in 2013 jchan wrote:
Sorry I haven't read through the thread but does anyone know if Professor Schmitt is part of these or who is making them? Somehow they just seem too lame, too poor quality and too non-supportive of past riders and artists for him to have anything to do with them.


Paul has no involvement. Solely produced by Dorfman

punkkin wrote:
Hold up, is this true? Damn.


I spoke with Bryce this past weekend and he confirmed that the Lopes family isn't getting a penny.


So there is your answer.....You either knew that when you originally posted or you searched it out afterwards. Either way it didn't change how you posted. You came in on the attack right out of the gate instead of asking...That was my point


skate-addict wrote:
Has Joe Lopes family received royalties from his boards?

Who gets gator's royalties?


Mark Rogowski is not on the Gator deck.

Lopes wife called in and just asked for a few decks recently


this is how i asked at first.


Im just here to show you the new product. Why all the negativity. If you dont want to see new stuff ill stop posting. I dont work the details on anything with money here. I just work here. I was just trying to keep people updated with what we make here.
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jkelly
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:46 am Reply with quote
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Sorry about that Chuck. Keep posting. The new stuff looks great

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:18 am Reply with quote
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im always keen to read your news chuck.. dont stop posting

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:34 pm Reply with quote
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I agree you should keep posting new product, Chuck - but don't pull the "what, me worry" defense when folks ask if royalties are properly being paid. Find out the answer from your employer, don't just say "why the negativity."

Select obviously knows they can't pay Gator, and Gonz could legally come after them in a heartbeat given that he currently helms his own brand/has a current pro model.

What about these other guys? Joe (RIP), Groholski, Grigley, Park, Miller, Douglas, Ralph, Jinx, Crum, Nash, Lester - that's a long list. Select may own the rights to the Vision/Schmitt/Sims brand names and artwork, but the pro should be compensated for the use of their name.

I would be SHOCKED if Powell and Santa Cruz are not compensating former riders for the use of their names on reissues. Grosso's well known desire not to have a relationship with SC is why his graphics were not reissued for a very long time. Why do you think Jim T. went off on C&D when they ran the superhero deck?


I am in no way saying Select shouldn't be making reissues - I have a Lopes BBQ reissue on my wall. However, when it comes to Lopes in particular, if Select is using his name on a product and not compensating his family, that is simply not cool at all.

(I know, arguing on the internet is dumb. I will shut up now.)


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jwd
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:02 am Reply with quote
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^ Good points, well made.

It's wishful thinking regarding the history of Dorfman, but it would be a positive gesture if the Gator royalties could be given to an anti-violence charity.

And pocketing the Lopes royalties is plain wrong.
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