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dreadyboy
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:32 am Reply with quote
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i'm kinda surprised no-one mentioned the name of larry bertleman here, according to me he is the founder of the slides as we know em today, check the dogtown and z-boys documentary, they are doing slides called berts, influenced on a surfing movement done by the surfing star of the moment, larry bertleman

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steve-g
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:41 am Reply with quote
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MrCokesNSmokes wrote:
Question: I wonder who influenced Coleman..............?


Torger Johnson.
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ukoldschool
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:07 am Reply with quote
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MrCokesNSmokes wrote:
many times in skate history, similar events happen in different places, at almost the same time. Other times, obscure people make huge advances and discoveries, only to pursue them fway outside of the limelight..... never to get credit for them until far, far later


Quote of the year!
I might ressurect the Tony Alva and Russ Howell threads just for that quote!
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KidsonWheels
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:49 am Reply with quote
Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 2825 Location: DullYouth
Thank you guys

That interview is soo cool MSK thank you

so Slides slides n slides

I thought the Berts were done on a bank like uphill?

I see the connection but theres a difference in a layback on a bank

and one going 30+Downhills you couldn't walk up


SO Stacy was turned on to the slide by the Guys Cliff taught?

and had to discovery em by doing em with friends Chris Iverson and Todd Hastings.

who is Cliff? like his last name
and did you notice this
"Oh, and another thing about Powell-Peralta. After I met them, Chris would shape me boards. So I told him I wanted a double kick with each end identical. That way if you slide fakie, either end could be the front of the board. Chris than put a blank of my design in the R & D room at Powell-Peralta. It was this board that Tony Hawk chose as his last signature model before leaving to start his own company. "

Cliff invented the symmetrical board for sliding!

Mullen is off the hook on that


We live here in Duluth and my town has the steepest scariest hills in the state

and maybe even for a few states we have been playing with the Slide and my inspirations have been this old footage

but I always wondered about where it came from
I imagined all these Rad old downhill events with corners and slides

thank you and more stories please

I agree with Stacy in its the most fun I have had on a board.

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MrCokesNSmokes
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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KidsonWheels wrote:

I thought the Berts were done on a bank like uphill?

I see the connection but theres a difference in a layback on a bank

and one going 30+Downhills you couldn't walk up




Well, of course there's a difference. But, there's also a very obvious similarity, as well.

I would imagine that it wouldn't have been a very big leap of logic to go from, sliding a bert around- or, down- an embankment (which is, of course, a paved incline)........... to doing the same thing down, say, a steep hill (which is also, of course, a paved incline).

That's generally how progression occurs: Someone putting 2 and 2 together, to get 4. Even if the 2 and 2, at first glance, might not seem to go together all that well.............

Think about the Ollie. Invented on vert. Then, taken to flat ground. Well, on vert, your momentum up the transition largely overcomes gravity. The "scoop" of the tail merely insures that the board sticks to your feet. Well, again- it's not too outlandish to think that, by "scooping" harder on flat ground (to overcome the additional gravity that would ordinarily be dealt with by vertical momentum), that a flatground ollie might be possible.

Everything has to come from somewhere. And that "somewhere" is usually "precedent", filled in with a little imagination.
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dreadyboy
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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i couldn't have said it better myself mrcokesnsmokes
it's just how you c it i guess, but i think the basic movement is the same

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scotty
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:14 pm Reply with quote
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So what are the correct sort of wheels to get started on the sliding thing? I've got 92 or 97 Krypto speed thanes, Powell Rat bones, G-bones to choose from. I'm thinking of going with slippery so you can slide the board early.
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sixpack
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:38 pm Reply with quote
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I'm thinking of going out in the front of my house and doing tic-tacs today

yo what do you guys recommend

What wheelbase really get's it a'ripping

I'm thinking straight 54mm thanes (should I rit-dye the wheels)

what is the history of the tic-tac

any video available

who did it the raddest back in the day

hey this looks

famil'yur

totally dood.




wow, this job is REALLY boring. Too bad they blocked Monster, jobs.com, etc.
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JEC_31
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:42 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 426 Location: GR -- MI
Excellent Post.

Thanks guys for the hisory lessons and vids, keep 'em coming if you got more!

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I remember discovering sliding by accident, as a desperate act of self-preservation halfway down a hill, because I already knew what speed wobbles were.

This was in Houghton, Michigan, a town in da U.P. built on a steep hillside. My friend Paul and I would bomb a block down to the flat of the a cross-street and ollie off the "lip" to land going 400mph down the next block and have to slide a lot in order to not die. Yes, I got some rash - I slid on my shoulder into an old lady's garden once.

But I never put my hands down, that is fucking awesome. I gotta get some gloves, we have some hills here in Grand Rapids.

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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:59 pm Reply with quote
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NPR story, photos, interview with Cliff & Jim:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/st...p?storyId=4771489

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